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I have similar views as your. I also do not have children, but I did work in a day care center for some time and have been around many other family member's children. When I was at the day care center I was not allowed to spank or swat any child, but I really never felt the need to. I did on occasion have to bodily pick a child up from a temper tantrum and sit them in a chair for a spell.

I think you are right when you say this will generate a lot of interesting comments. I also think you are right when you say that delving further into a persons reasons for why they believe in or against spanking, makes their choices more understandable.
Yeah...people have different definitions of spanking. We would get a good whack or 2 on the hiney and it did work. Some people think it means a prolonged session of over the knee whacking, maybe on a bare butt, I dunno. I don't have a problem with how we were disciplined. I don't see it as violence, especially because, as you said, it was a last resort, it wasn't for any time we did anything remotely wrong.
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I bet this post'll open the floodgates for some angry commenters!

I think, for the most part, I agree with you and hope such a bill does not come to pass. That doesn't mean I advocate people using physical force on their children as a parenting method, but I'd rather the government not set up a whole lot of laws on what is/is not acceptable on how to raise children. Yes, by all means, have laws in place that prevent abuse of children. Hell, add verbal abuse in there too, since I suspect that's a lot more prevalent than physical abuse. But the occasional swat on the bottom for a child that deserves it doesn't belong in the same category as these other abuses.

When we were young, my brothers and I got a swat on the behind rarely, but when we truly deserved it. This stopped pretty much as soon as we were old enough to understand what was going on and other approaches (punishments) were able to dissuade us from acting out, etc. Our parents didn't use it as a means to demonstrate their power over us - they used it as a last resort wake-up-call when we were misbehaving and too young to be brought into line any other way.

Even with the occasional spanking, my brothers and I did NOT grow up thinking that physical violence was a good way to solve problems, or that bullying was a good way to keep people in line. I sincerely doubt I will spank my kids, but it's not a decision I'm making because of my own experiences with spanking.

However, I don't think allowing people to spank their children is going to keep a crop of disrespectful children from popping up around us - this lack of manners doesn't stem from being coddled - it comes from the influences and role models in a child's life - if they grow up believing they can act that way or see others acting that way, they will. I think the government would be making a better use of its resources if they created classes to help teach parents good parenting skills (mediation, alternate punishments that work better than spanking, etc), rather than try to brute-force parenting techniques on families through a law like this.
I agree with Ross who said it better than I could -- my parents used the same technique with me.

When I was Old Enough To Know Better, it was reserved for repeated willful disobedience, after a warning. "Don't do X." (X) "If you do X again, I'm going to spank you." (X) Open handed pop on clothed butt. No more X.

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